Q&A with Richard Shuttleworth
From L-R: Vincent Ong, Head of Youth Coaching at NYSI, Tan Wearn Haw, Director of NYSI and Richard Shuttleworth.
Richard Shuttleworth is a High Performance
Coaching consultant who has worked on high performance and development in a
range of Olympic and World Cup team and individual sports. Throughout his
career, he has developed an expertise in a number of areas including elite and
development coaching, athlete and team performance, as well as education and
support.
The National Youth Sports Institute (NYSI)
invited Richard to come to Singapore from 16-17 April 2018 to conduct a series
of four workshops for our local coaches. He sat down for an interview with
Leslie Tan, NYSI Head of Athlete Life, and Vincent Ong, NYSI Head of Youth
Coaching.
Leslie Tan: Maybe you could talk about how
Eddie Jones transformed himself from a very directive coach to one that now
takes a very different approach – implicit coaching.
Richard Shuttleworth: Yeah, I think it’s a
good question, really, and I think looking at case studies like coaches who
have transformed themselves are really good places to start and Eddie Jones is
one of them.
I think Eddie Jones is one of many coaches,
who changed himself for a reason. He knew why he needed to change and that was
the first thing for him. He had a lot of success but was also struggling at a
certain time in his career in Australia. He probably tried to maintain control with
less success while the landscape and environment around him was changing. He
admits he could have done things differently and maybe like many coaches he
never really has gotten over that but this is what drives successful coaches.
I believe when he left Australia and went to
Japan he became more open-minded to ideas which he had previously not adopted.
It was almost like there was a new opportunity for him to possibly change, so I
don’t think that was necessarily forced on him by anybody.
He would have become more self-aware because
I think he’s quite a resilient, self-driven character, quite strong, quite
steely. He will always believe he will find the right way that’s going to work.
And I think it got to a point where he realised, “Maybe his good friend Bob
Dwyer, who’s a former Wallabies coach, maybe he is right.”
Because Dywer was saying to him, “Just give
responsibility to the players, you’ve got some of the best players in the
world. Should you be taking all this pressure on your shoulders, and trying to
give them all the solutions and try to have the perfect game plan, because it’s
never going to work. Allow the players to have some responsibility for what
they do.” And one of the best coaches was Bob Dwyer.
He got to Japan, and he must have reflected,
became self-aware and then realised changes were needed. He had more
conversations and thought, “This is my opportunity now to change the way I
coach and also allow players the ability to change the way they play the game
and how they make decisions.” He’s half-Japanese so I think he knows the
culture well. I think he would have had a good idea on the strategy and how he
would implement this through his staff and players.
Allowing Japanese rugby players to make
decisions is a fairly new concept ‘cause I think within their culture,
particularly within team sports, where you’ve got a number of players, they
like to be highly organised, they like to know their roles and responsibilities,
take orders so they know what they’re meant to be doing.
So he came in there not necessarily wanting
that. He was going to break that down. I think it’s easier (in) Japan to do
that because I think that he’s well-respected as a coach and they were going to
listen to him. I think he thinks that was the best thing in his learning
journey.
The key moment may have happened when things started
failing in Australia where he changed the game plan every few weeks. The players
must have been contemplating what next and finding it difficult to adjust to
all the changes but I guess he thought he had the answers and all the
solutions. So yeah, he would have developed a new style of coaching from this
experience.
He works closely with Scott Wisemental, who
knows this approach inside out in rugby, also a friend of mine. He worked as
the Wallabies skills coach and he helped Eddie Jones to train in a different
way, to give more responsibility, and then train and design practice
differently so it allowed players to make their own choices and own decisions
on the pitch based around key principles and a framework.
With this method, training was a bit messier.
It looked slightly less organised at times. It was very fast, but lots of good
mistakes and poor decisions, really. But
training was an opportunity for the players to put this right.
But over time, that improves and I think he
had the support of the other coaches to trust the playing and training model
and to trust the approach. Obviously, that worked out and it started to shine
through.
When you play a team like South Africa, who
are very structured team at times, they want to know what should happen next.
He probably knew there was an opportunity to beat them if his players could
adapt and make decisions quicker than them and adjust on field. His success
early on as a coach was a bit similar to that.
I guess like most top coaches they’ve learnt
from making mistakes, sometimes you hit rock bottom, question your belief in
what you’re doing, lose confidence. And then suddenly you become open and you
have to try things because you know what you’re doing is not working.
Leslie Tan: How did you come to this approach
in your own coaching career?
Richard Shuttleworth: I think it was quite
different from that. I started my rugby career in Hong Kong and I was playing
for the team, so I was coaching the team that I played, called ‘Hong Kong
Football Club’.
I had a very good friend of mine, from New
Zealand, on the team. I designed my first week’s training session. At the end
of the first week, I ran a series of drills and this New Zealand guy, at the
end of one of my training sessions, took me to the side and basically said,
“What are you doing? The stuff we’re doing has nothing to do with the game of
rugby.”
I hadn’t realised what I was doing, I was in
my own world of trying to design the most perfect training sessions that were
completely isolated. It was because of him, someone whom I respected and
listened to, that I changed as a coach within weeks.
Because I was relatively young and I think I
was probably educated enough to think that, actually, he had a point. I started
to then think about coaching methods. Maybe there’s different ways to coach and
I hadn’t even been exposed to that. You don’t get told that there are different
ways to coach in coaching courses; you just do level one, two and three. I
understood about learning methodologies, so after a few weeks, I changed
straightaway and it was a case of going on a journey to explore. I then went
back to university to explore coaching both academically and kept coaching
practically in 1999.
Leslie Tan: Do you think there are cultural
barriers that prevent this approach from taking root in Asian cultures, as
opposed to more Western cultures?
Richard Shuttleworth: Yeah, there are
definitely socio-cultural aspects to it. I think over history, the culture and
what we call the form of life – why we do what we do – becomes embedded and
implicit in society. I think that societal pressure on coaching and sport is
always there and is ever-present. It is interwoven into the fabric of sport.
You can’t separate them. So the way Singaporean teams play or the way sports
are conducted are very much a fabric of Singaporean society.
Leslie Tan: Which links to what you said
about just working with a guiding coalition because you can’t change everybody.
What top coaches will do is to leave a legacy
to make the place better than what it was along with a guiding coalition of
people who believe that and carry that forward.
You shouldn’t bring somebody in to be the
saviour to change what you’re doing if you don’t believe that you’re not making
your decisions. You need to understand your society and why you don’t make
decisions or why you make poor decisions or why you don’t even make decisions,
and understand society and cultural influences.
I think in the last two days, I’ve really
just inspired or stimulated people’s minds to think: “Hmm maybe we can do
things slightly differently.” If they, together, interact and work, it’s very
powerful because in a dynamic open adaptive system, the sum of its parts is
greater than its whole.
So I think it’s very powerful when you think
that you could actually change the course of the future or the discourse of the
Singaporean approach to sport, once you have a critical mass of people that
inspire throughout the pathway.
The diagram I showed is: “invite the action,
create the need”. There is already a need. It’s not like I come here to create
a need so that I can be used. I never go anywhere praying that you must do this
approach. There’s always got to be a need there and someone invites you in,
then you come and meet halfway.
I think, maybe, it’s Singapore being more
self-aware, being more responsible and self-organising themselves. Using those
exact things we’ve talked about today on a large scale. It’s just a different
scale from ours but the same principles apply. It’s a model you could look at
for the future of how you run things because you’ve got the ability to control
that in Singapore.
Leslie Tan: But we’re quite small.
Richard Shuttleworth: Yeah, but you do have
to control these sort of constraints. You do need control over them. It’s not
in a negative way. It’s so that you don’t have autocratic or directive,
didactic coaching going on still. If you’re going this way, everyone has the
support, beliefs and the values of that system. The way you deliver it, of
course, has a number of ways: “nudge, nudge” or you can just have mass
structure change. It’s different ways of doing things. So you guys have to
decide what’s best for you.
Vincent Ong: I think it would be good if you
give a quick explanation on what constraint-based coaching is and can deliver,
at least at the high-performance coaching side.
Richard Shuttleworth: To me, the
constraint-led approach to coaching or constraint-learning approach is a
paradigm shift in thinking. It’s more than just a coaching approach. The danger
of calling it an approach is that, at some stage, it will lose its importance
and seen as a fad. It’s not an approach to coaching. I believe it is a paradigm
shift in thinking about human behaviour.
How does human behaviour emerge? The previous
approach was information-processing theory, which was, we construct skill. It’s
a motor programme and we look for errors and variability, we detect it and we
correct it. We construct and build, so you’ll hear words like “we produce”, “we
execute” and “we manufacture”. That’s old paradigm.
The “constraint” is a paradigm shift in
thinking about how movement skills emerge under constraints. It’s a shift in
thinking about how athletes come through a system to be very effective,
effective for success in the Olympic Games and the Commonwealth Games.
The more practice you have at looking at case
studies of athletes coming through, like the table tennis players or
Singaporean sailors who have been pretty successful, you start to look at how
those behaviours start to emerge under constraints.
We’ve got system constraints, like this establishment.
We’ve got coaching constraints every day at the micro-level. I think that
different scale of analysis is looking at constraints. I think I try to touch
more on micro-constraints in the last two days at the coaching level.
At the system level, it’s more of what we
we’ve been talking about today. It’s about how can we change system constraints
to afford more effective behaviour in an athlete i.e. make better decisions
when we’re not here, or enable them more opportunities to make decisions and
learn.
That may not fit with the Singaporean
education system, where it’s very constrained, with assessments each week,
there is no chance to explore, no chance to look outside and question why am I
doing things a certain way. You’re limiting learning in a way, but you’re
maximising their performance at school at a specific point along their journey
as it’s very enclosed, it’s very refined… but that doesn’t transfer very well
under dynamic situations, when you go outside of that system.
So I will try looking at the bigger picture
now and try to look at ways we can adapt those principles to the way we run at
a systems level. In short, “constraints” is quite powerful, it’s not just an
approach to coaching – it’s a philosophy, ideology and a paradigm shift in thinking.
Vincent Ong: And you talk about moving
behaviour emerging from three variables. What are the three variables you’re
looking at in terms of “constraints-based”?
Richard Shuttleworth: With the “constraints”
approach, we would definitely look at the individual, that’s often called the
“organism” or the “performer”. The individual is critical in this approach. The
reason being is because you identify the individual as an individual. They will
be unique and different from other individuals.
So when you use a “constraints” approach,
you’re not using a one-model-fits-all, you’re adapting the system and the
sessions geared around the needs of that particular individual. For the
individual we’ve got structural, functional, mental and physical.
We’ve also got the environment. The
environment is critical. The environment in isolation is things like the
physical environment, like surface of the ground, physical objects, gravity,
and the weather. It obviously rains here a lot so we’re going to have some
environmental constraints in training here. The atmosphere is quite humid. It’s
quite heavy to breathe, so that will have effects on skill as well.
When you look at the environment in relation
to the individual, that’s the key with the “constraints” approach. You can’t
look at these things in isolation. You can’t look at a performer in isolation
from an environment because there’ll be no context. The way they relate to each
other, that relationship is what we’re looking at with the “constraints”
approach.
Manipulate something in the environment? How
does that relationship with the performer change? That in itself is not the
whole answer either – there is the context of the task. The other apex of the
triangle is the task.
I’ve spent most of the time talking to the
coaches about the influence of task constraints on the performer and the
environment, and the relationship as well. Some of the task constraints would
be the goal or the purpose of the activity. It could be to win a gold medal in
judo or sailing, and therefore what practice constraints do we place on them in
terms of space and boundaries, rules and regulations, the information we give
them and the equipment we manipulate.
In my experience, everything tends to fit
into that triangle. I’ve not seen anything that doesn’t fit in that so I’ve
liked it from day one when Karl Newell in 1985 came up with it as a way to look
at how behaviour emerges under the influence and the confluence by the
interaction of those constraints.
When a coach manipulates something, the
implication for coaching is observing the interaction of the other constraints
and how the performer adapts. It’s all about adaptability. When constraints
react, they create variability and that player has to adapt to the environment
and the task. It’s all about adaptability.
The skill of human behaviour is how you adapt
your behaviour, movement, skills and decisions to be effective in any
environment. Therefore, these are higher order principles of the system we look
for. Traditionally, you would look for technique or actions, but these are
higher order and they will govern your actions and decisions.
Vincent Ong: You talk about adaptability and
so on, and you did say that coaches should do repetition without repetitions.
Elaborate more on what it means.
Richard Shuttleworth: When you do
“repetitions with repetition”, a brief description of that would be to
replicate or reproduce the same movement or decision every time. There is no
variability in the system, there is no choice for change or adaptation. There
is minimal to no adaptation in repetitions with repetition.
Looking at it from a “constraints” approach,
it doesn’t make sense to do repetitions with repetition. We’re looking for the
player and the athlete to adapt. To adapt, we need to change something. When we
change something, we’re looking for change in the performance or the
development of an athlete to the circumstances or the situation they’re
confronted with. With co-adaptation, we’re looking for an element of repetition
to gauge their level of adaption between reps and within reps.
So we may repeat the problem but the problem
may look slightly different. They may have more time, less time. It may be
using different equipment. We may say, “Achieve the same outcome but in a
slightly different way.”
Each time, there’s going to be slightly
different changes to the movement pattern, starting position or endpoints. We
will see adaptation take place using a “constraints” approach. The issue with
the “repetitions with no repetition” is that very minimal adaptation creates
certainty in the athlete, that what they’re doing is working.
So we’re almost setting them up
psychologically by interacting with these very predictable, stable constraints,
that we’re making athletes feel that they’ve trained for performance in the
correct way. They’re getting this false sense of security, this certainty and
safety behind the performance.
What we’re suggesting is that the
“constraints” approach uses safety. You support the players in terms of their
adaptation and their decisions, but you’re creating an uncertain environment.
The way we do that is by manipulating constraints to create uncertainty. With
that uncertainty, the athlete has to feel that they can come out and find a
solution or find a way physically, mentally, socially, behaviourally and
fitness-wise.
So this interactive approach equips the
athlete not just in an isolated way, but the interaction of constraints helps
them psychologically, physically, mentally, socially and behaviourally. The beautiful
thing about this approach is that behaviour emerges as a result of the
interaction of these constraints. You don’t separate anything. You don’t have
to have interventions for things.
That’s probably why I’ve thought that this
approach is something that makes sense to me coming back to my first day of coaching
where I was trying to design around “Perfect Repetitions”. I think coaches
actually understand and are intrigued by constraints learning and coaching as
well.
They may not be able to explain it in a way
we just have, but they can identify with it. They probably have done elements
of this coaching, but they just can’t explain it in this way. You’ll find these
sorts of coaches don’t really repeat things too much anyway. They will tend to
change things because they want to see adaptive changes in their athletes and
that’s if their athletes haven’t changed their own training challenges already.